Chris Clemens

Creator + Owner + Author = Chief Exploring Officer. Chris has been traveling back and forth across New York for years studying and discovering the tucked away gems of the state and chronicling the journey

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  1. Brian Dillon
    January 15, 2019 @ 11:40 am

    The reason upstate New York hates NY government is because they don’t do anything for us. They say casinos are doing that. I haven’t noticed the difference myself. Upstate is totally ignored by Cuomo. Also Republicans in this state are frowned upon. Hence I bet a lot of the people leaving are Republicans.

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  2. Lou
    January 15, 2019 @ 6:34 pm

    I left Rochester suburb for South Carolina. I loved all the seasons in upstate…though gotta say that the stretches of grey skies in winter could get to you. But it was taxes that made me move. Bought a house down here just about the same price as the one i left in Rochester. With the difference in the tax bill my wife and I went on a Carribean cruise and a two week trip to Europe.

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  3. Pat
    January 16, 2019 @ 1:03 am

    I live about 20mins away from Roscoe and about an hour or so from Binghamton. True, most of what you said is true. Where I live and you live are totally different but also communities are different. Where I live there maybe nothing if people want to think that but I see more diversity. Upstate or higher my friend would tell me its “wonder bread” up there or white people even though there’s different cultures in each area. I tend to think that upstate are more community oriented than where I live as well as the preparation of fast food and food products sold. I have hope for my area but still people sometimes can’t deal with this area. There is a form of pessimism and the feeling that change isn’t coming quick enough that people lose interest in the area. I don’t really care about politics as long as it doesn’t affect my wellbeing but I love where I was born and raised. If people don’t want a part of it then that’s fine and there will always be a home for whoever wants to live upstate or be welcomed back. As for weather, it will always be too hot or too cold and the winter will seem to feel as though trapped and devoured within a gray cloud of darkness but that is nothing compared to the beauty each area NYS has to offer and literally for people it might be too much to take.

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  4. Jason
    January 16, 2019 @ 3:14 pm

    Combined Sales and Income Taxes – NYS leads the way at 12.7% with CT at 12.6 and NJ 12.2. So while you are right….that NYS never comes in first for any single one tax (Property / Income / Sales) we always come in the top…and when you look at what we pay in total Sales / Income / Property – NYS is without doubt top three if not top 1. So downplaying taxes does a disservice. It hurts the people that live here and it hurts the companies….which further hurts people living here. On top of that we have tax free zones where our corrupt politicians are picking and choosing who gets those benefits thus picking the winners while everyone else has to pay taxes to support them. We also have Albany controlled by downstate….thus it’s downstate that is telling us how to live. They want to ship their trash and have take our clean water and have us produce their energy…but they want to dictate how we produce that energy.

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  5. What's There To Love About Upstate New York? |
    January 27, 2019 @ 8:02 am

    […] wrote this post about the reasons people most often give for leaving New York and moving elsewhere. But, so many of […]

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  6. Eleanor Celentani
    January 28, 2019 @ 12:16 am

    Thanks for this article, Chris. It was informative. Nice to have hard facts to look at. Maybe the state should advertise its diversity more, telling people that we have a wide variety of types of communities to choose from, and consider that a good thing.

    Of course resentment in politics doesn’t help anything. New, creative ideas are what unleash prosperity, which I think everyone wants. I know I am somewhat biased, but I feel problems of this nature needs to be looked at from a spiritual consciousness point of view, as well as the points of view you have listed in the article. On earth, conditions change, but our beliefs and attitudes have power to improve outcomes. This requires faith and patience, qualities not so evident in our 21st century mindset.

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  7. Paul McGloin
    February 28, 2019 @ 2:06 pm

    Whoever wrote this article has an agenda: “Aw, it it really so bad?” The answer: “Yes…it is.” People vote with their feet. At some point, New York will figure it out. But by then, New York will be the fifteenth most populous state in the nation, and my great-grandchildren will be approaching retirement. Good luck, NY!

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  8. Armchair Birdwatching In Upstate |
    May 11, 2019 @ 7:49 am

    […] all know that Mother Nature can be a bit of a moody gal, especially here in Upstate New York. Snow on Mother’s Day? Sure, that’s just her way to remind […]

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